URL occasionally goes to old site

[notconform]

Hi,

I have a question that I don't know where to look for an answer.

Before Bluehost, I was with Lunarpages, but my Domain Hosting is with Yahoo.

Naturally, I updated the DNS servers inside Yahoo to reflect Bluehost addresses.

The problem is, there are times when the same URL will take me a previously registered site (Lunarpages) and not the new one I've prepared.

How should I go about resolving this? Who should I contact, Lunarpages, Bluehost or Yahoo?

Thanks all for your time.

[notconform]

Here's the Whois info, if it helps: (I think Melbourne is yahoo's server)

Registry Whois

Domain Search:

Domain Name: notconform.com

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com

Expiration Date: 2008-08-14
Creation Date: 2007-08-14
Last Update Date: 2008-04-29

Name Servers:
ns1.bluehost.com
ns2.bluehost.com

Extended Info

IP Address: 69.89.27.204
IP Location: United States
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635
Alexa Trend/Rank: 1 Month: 4,274,404 3 Month: 4,578,418
Page Views per Visit: 1 Month: 6 3 Month: 4.5
Cache Date: 2008-06-10 08:59:11 MST

[Early Out]

When trying to access your site, you might just be hitting a DNS server that hasn't been updated yet, but that should only persist for a few days, at worst. ISPs will sometimes cache pages, but there, too, it shouldn't continue happening for long.

Is there any pattern to this? Does it happen to you on your own PC, or are other people reporting the problem?

[notconform]

It's been acting like this ever since I switched to Bluehost.

I've updated Yahoo's DNS to bluehost (as you see in the whois) for a long time.

Other people have reported the same problem, where they can access the correct site one day, and then not work another time. Frequency cannot be calculated, but it definitely recurs.

One thing I was thinking of is that my forum (what the site is used for) contains google adsense, which means google bots crawl all over the site.

Could this affect in the way that Google bots don't know that I've updated the site and is still returning old content?

If you open http://notconform.com, sometimes my new content displays (Joomla template), sometimes old content shows (Lunarpages).

Any suggestions?

[felgall]

I had that problem when I first transferred to BlueHost. In my case it was caused by my transferring the domain registration too soon after changing the nameservers and the second nameserver ended up pointing back to the old hosting even though the domain info showed it pointing to the right place.

[notconform]

Expiration Date: 2008-08-14
Creation Date: 2007-08-14
Last Update Date: 2008-04-29

Even though I changed it before that, too, but you see from the lastest Whois entry, this information was updated at the end of April, so any further propgation should've been completed.

I was wondering if Google had anything to do with this, and if so, how do I tell Google bot to update their cache?

[notconform]

Bump...Anyone got any clue?

Need advice.

[Early Out]

I think we're all stumped, having never seen this before.

I can't see how Google could have anything to do with any of this, however. Google isn't maintaining nameservers for your domain.

[notconform]

I think we're all stumped, having never seen this before.

I can't see how Google could have anything to do with any of this, however. Google isn't maintaining nameservers for your domain.

Could this be a Yahoo thing? The situation is that the same URL (hosted by Yahoo) did contain old DNS (lunarpages), then when I switched to Bluehost, I updated the settings.

It's getting annoying because I can access the correct site (joomla front end) at home, but when I try to access it elsewhere then it jumps into the "lunarpages" start page...

Any other thoughts?

p.s. Thanks for taking the time read and/or respond

[alligosh]

I am guessing that you brought over a cpanel backup of your account from lunarpages, and had us do a restore.

In that instance, your zone file was restored by cpanel exactly like it was at lunarpages, which includes the NS records claiming that lunarpages is authoritative.

; Zone file for notconform.com
$TTL 14400
@ 86400 IN SOA ns1.lunarservers.com. dnsadmin.box204.bluehost.com. (
2008052500 ; serial, todays date+todays
86400 ; refresh, seconds
7200 ; retry, seconds
3600000 ; expire, seconds
86400 ) ; minimum, seconds

notconform.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.lunarservers.com.
notconform.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.lunarservers.com.


This tells the world that lunarpages is the authoritative source for information, and since they still claim to be authoritative on their nameservers, some dns resolvers out on the Internet will keep looking after they see the zone on our servers, and get the lunarpages answer.

two things need to be done to completely fix the issue. 1) the zone file needs to have the NS records changed to bluehost's nameservers. I have done that for you. 2) you need to contact lunarpages and have them remove your dns information from their nameservers.

My change will make most of the world only find bluehost, but it is always best to not have old providers still claim to be authoritative.

[notconform]

two things need to be done to completely fix the issue. 1) the zone file needs to have the NS records changed to bluehost's nameservers. I have done that for you. 2) you need to contact lunarpages and have them remove your dns information from their nameservers.

My change will make most of the world only find bluehost, but it is always best to not have old providers still claim to be authoritative.

I will contact Lunarpages hosting service. Thanks again!!

[colum]

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