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pmcnallyhealer
06-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Hi all =)

I am wondering, in regards to the new bluehost SMTP servers, will this affect outgoing mail from php scripts using the mail() function?

Thank you =)

Light and Love and Healing to you,
-Patrick Arden McNally

Early Out
06-25-2009, 06:47 PM
I wasn't even aware that BH was doing anything with the SMTP servers. Since SMTP is a very old, stable protocol, I'd be very surprised if anything will change at all. Is there some information that leads you to think otherwise?

Barbouille
06-26-2009, 12:40 PM
Bluehost sent out an email today to its customers.

Early Out
06-26-2009, 01:35 PM
They must be doing it in batches - I haven't gotten any notification.

Barbouille
06-26-2009, 01:42 PM
I am still not clear what boxe(s) I should check to enable authetification in Thunderbird.

There is a box for NONE, one for TSL if available, one for TSL and one for SSL

I watched the Bluehost video and this is not covered.

Thanks

felgall
06-26-2009, 01:55 PM
I am still not clear what boxe(s) I should check to enable authetification in Thunderbird.

There is a box for NONE, one for TSL if available, one for TSL and one for SSL

I watched the Bluehost video and this is not covered.

Thanks

Mine has "TSL if available" checked (but I usually send via my ISP rather than the hosting for most emails so it has been a while since I hast sent through that particular SMTP setup).

pmbinky
06-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Hi all =)

I am wondering, in regards to the new bluehost SMTP servers, will this affect outgoing mail from php scripts using the mail() function?

Thank you =)

Light and Love and Healing to you,
-Patrick Arden McNally

In regards to the original question; I just got off the phone with bluehost support and they told me that, "You have to make sure that you have written SMTP authentication into the scripts."

I guess that means "Get crackin'."

EricJ
06-26-2009, 09:44 PM
SMTP and the sendmail function are different things.. I had to make sure but i just made a very simple php script and it went through fine.. The changes to the SMTP servers are just that they require authentication now.. It doesn't mean you have to have ssl enabled.. Authentication is something totally different.. The change was made to prohibit unauthorized mail from being sent through the servers.
Here is the script that i used.. (except i changed the addresses :D).. and there is nothing about authentication there.


<?php
$to = 'nobody@example.com';
$subject = 'the subject';
$message = 'hello';
$headers = 'From: webmaster@example.com' . "\r\n" .
'Reply-To: webmaster@example.com' . "\r\n" .
'X-Mailer: PHP/' . phpversion();

mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers);
?>

Early Out
06-27-2009, 12:39 AM
The changes to the SMTP servers are just that they require authentication now..
I would have sworn they always did. My email clients have always been configured for user authentication.

EricJ
06-27-2009, 03:29 AM
Most of the newer boxes always have.. but they are going back and enabling smtp authentication in waves across all servers. In waves BTW. ~50 at a time.

pmbinky
06-27-2009, 09:49 AM
I would have sworn they always did. My email clients have always been configured for user authentication.

I have always set mail clients to use authentication also and I never considered not using it.

I'm relatively new to using mailto() in any code since most anything I've ever written was for internal applications so I had no idea how this function
interacts with the mail server.

pmcnallyhealer
06-27-2009, 06:26 PM
I posted a support ticket to blue host about this, and this is what they said:
If your using a PHP script and using the mail function you don't have to worry about anything. That email is pretty much for
programs such as outlook or thunderbird and other mail clients.

Thank you,
Brandon
Level II Tech Support /Scripting
BlueHost.com
888.401.4678


Thank you =)

Light and Love and Healing to you,
-Patrick Arden McNally

pmcnallyhealer
11-26-2009, 09:03 PM
From: \"Name\" <email@address.com>\r\nReply-to: \"Name\" <email@address.com>\r\n

And email@address.com has to be an actual e-mail account you have setup on your bluehost account =)

Hope this helps!

Light and Love and Healing to you,
-Patrick Arden McNally

Tree Bones
12-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Hi Everyone,
I'm a newbie here. Not sure if this applies to this thread, I just installed tikiwiki groupware through simple scripts and have not been able to get the mail working. I have tried everything I can think of and still no mail.
I found this response to the same problem on a post at the tiki community forum site:

"I guess it's a spam filter problem. I had that too, all the mail tikiwiki sent was filtered, because I hadn't a reverse dns entry for my server and so the spam filter of the email service provider couldn't verify the origin of the mail. I have no problems since I asked my provider for a reverse dns entry."

Not sure about this fix and hope someone might be able to help.

Thanks in advance.