Not listed in Google at all

[dallen]

I was hoping someone here might be able to help me. I've found out that although I am listed on Yahoo, Ask, MSN, and others I am not listed at all on Google. If you do a site:www.blah.org or a site:blah.org search for my website, there are 0 results. My site hasn't been around real long (about 3 weeks), but I've been on the front page of Reddit and Netscape and I'm starting to get plenty of incoming links. I've submitted a Google Sitemap even, but no luck there either. I tried emailing Google about it but didn't get a response. On Google Sitemaps it says my site was successfully indexed on Aug 3. I'm not doing anything that I know of that Google would object to. It's just a Wordpress blog. I even have Adsense installed and working on my site. Anyone have any idea what I can do?

[Smoothice]

It took my site over a month to show up on google. Theyhave this thing called the sandbox effect. Effectivly punishing you for being new. I would give it another week and if you still do not have anything listed then I would resubmit your site again using a software solution or even better you can pay a small amount and have a SEO company do it for you. They usually garantee inclusion.

Hopet this helps

Smoothice

[silentcollision]

Wait.

It'll come. Just get some decent, origional content, put in keywords, and make your site search engine friendly. You won't get to #1 on competitive keywords that way, but you will get on.

If you seriously want high search engine traffic, you should consider SEO. Try scriptlance.com, or a similar site to hire someone.

[dallen]

Wait.

It'll come. Just get some decent, origional content, put in keywords, and make your site search engine friendly. You won't get to #1 on competitive keywords that way, but you will get on.

If you seriously want high search engine traffic, you should consider SEO. Try scriptlance.com, or a similar site to hire someone.I'm not really that worried about traffic. It is just a personal blog afterall. I just though it was odd that I was getting indexed on other sites and Google wasn't doing the same.

[BrandonK]

Google also gets more submissions then any other search engine so it will probably take a bit longer to get on there then the other places. :)

[BearState]

I was hoping someone here might be able to help me. I've found out that although I am listed on Yahoo, Ask, MSN, and others I am not listed at all on Google. If you do a site:www.blah.org or a site:blah.org search for my website, there are 0 results. My site hasn't been around real long (about 3 weeks), but I've been on the front page of Reddit and Netscape and I'm starting to get plenty of incoming links. I've submitted a Google Sitemap even, but no luck there either. I tried emailing Google about it but didn't get a response. On Google Sitemaps it says my site was successfully indexed on Aug 3. I'm not doing anything that I know of that Google would object to. It's just a Wordpress blog. I even have Adsense installed and working on my site. Anyone have any idea what I can do?

I have had extreme difficulties getting indexed by google. When my pages are listed by them they are totally screwed up.

I have to consider the google search engine indexing algorithms as BUGGY.

For me, they are unreliable and as such, I also consider Google unreliable and Buggy. Both Yahoo and MSN list my site and its sub pages with very little problems. But Google is a DISASTER.

I do not believe that searching with Google will fairly ( if at all ) find all sites pertinant to my queries based on what I've seen from the results of getting my site indexed. I do not use Google for searching any more. Instead, I prefer to use MSN and Yahoo and except that I periodically check to see if Google has got their act together with regard to my site, I would remove the Google tool bar.

I am extremely disappointed with the Google indexing algorithm. It appears to be a perfect example of overkill where obviously, intelligent engineers never learned the KISS principle ... KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!

I would not put the Google Search or Adwords or any other Google promotion on my site for any reason right now. THEY ARE IN MY SANDBOX!

[iandelaney]

It has taken me 8 weeks to get a sensible listing from Google. Even now, my PageRank is zero, though I turn up near the top in relevant searches. Yahoo still doesn't list me properly.

In my case, that doesn't really matter. A quality audience is far more important than a mass audience, for me, so getting seen by the people who I want to see it counts for a lot. The masses may, or may not, come with time.

From what I understand of SEO, having a lot of original content and engaging with your community is far more important nowadays than ticking boxes.

Also, I am happy with having a 'sandbox' period from the major engines (but come on Yahoo, give me a break!). For me, it has let me settle upon a design, writing style and frequency I can work with.

Sorry, that may all be irrelevant to you.

Ian

twopointouch.com (http://twopointouch.com)

[Reichling]

For future reference use http://www.google.com/addurl/ to submit sites to Google. But remember sites only get added when Google's Google Bots do a crawl. A way to get a better ranking is by having more sites with links to you. The way Google bots work is they jump from link to link on pages to collect domains and text information. The more links to your site, the higher ranked you are for that specific text search. If you have ever herd of a thing such as a Google “bomb” is when a large community of people post a link to a site using a certain word. Now lets say you wanted Bluehost to show up when you search “Awesome Webhosting”. You would put links all over the place with the text Awesome Webhosting that link to Bluehost.com. As soon as they do a crawl Bluehost will come up ranked for Awesome Webhosting depending on how many links there are.

[aceofspades]

my site get added pretty quickly cuase it had over 40 links to it ((most on forums in my sig ^_^)) Especially the FOM Fourms. But not 3m2.net cause thier are no links to it. The only way google knows about ur website is if their is a link on another website in the database. SInce forum.fomportal.com is in the database it showed up but not 3m2.net cause there is no links.

[dkinzer]

The only way google knows about ur website is if their is a link on another website in the database.
I believe that this assertion is false. I recently registered a new domain name with BlueHost. GoogleBot visited the site the next day even though there were no sites anywhere in the world (that I know of, at least) that linked to that new site.

[aceofspades]

maybe cause bluehost has a google deal. Bluehost proboly just sends ur domain to google. Just a guess. Cause google doesnt magically know that a new is made.

[mantisinc]

I had the same problem. I registered my domain with bluehost in october 2005. I had done allsorts to try and submit it to google, I even emailed google about it. They didn't really care, and said there was nothing they could do (which I imagine is a load of crap!) and said that I had to wait for it to be submitted. It also said that you will increase submission time if you website is linked from elsewhere. Now, I had links EVERYWHERE, litterally, hundreds of times on forums that would be crawled by google every day. But still it did not get submitted.
Anyway, earlier on this month, I randomly googled my website, and there it was! It is taking it's time to work through my hosting directories, by the main URL is there.

[Hercules]

I joined Google Adsense.
Not for earning money, but everytime I add a new page to my website, I put a small Google add on the bottom of that page to make sure Google sees and indexes that new page.
This way all new content is indexed within 2 weeks while it coul;d take months otherwise if a new page is far from the root and with little links to it.
Also I see Googlebot visiting my site with 200 hits a day when I have some ads.
Otherwise it's just a few hits a day.
However, on a lot of keywords I'm Nr. 1 in Yahoo and MSN, but nowhere to be found in Google.
The reason for that is probably this:
If I enter 'link:www.kuikens.com' in Google I get only 1 website other than mine, but in Yahoo and MSN I find over a hundred.
How come Google doesn't see al those other websites linking to me?
That's probably the reason I only have a PR of 2.

[MBill]

The best way to get on Google fast is to use this guy.
http://www.registereverywhere.com/?a=2kP4uL

I work for a major ISP and have used dozens of submissions tools.
This guy is the best I've found!

He does a great job--but it's also work on your part. Optimizing your pages, etc. Once your pages are optomized-he gets you listed in 30 days or so.

PS--I don't work for him--and never have. --he's just good at what he does.
:o

Like BlueHost--he trys to be the best in the Business.
MrBill

[pmbinky]

Welcome to the world of search engine advancement software. There are tons of companies making money on selling you techniques of advancing your ranking and they all boil down to the same thing - taking your dollars. Get away from using meta tags because lots of bots skip those right off the bat. Google uses a "link rating" system where if you have links on your site to other popular sites you will get ranked higher. This is not to say that you won't be ranked right away, because I have seen that happen, but if you have links on your page that the bots read, you will be ranked higher. Since most bots just look at text, you should be able to hide anchors all over the place pointing at things like ebay and what not. It's all turning into a publicity contest.

[andreww]

i got my blog www.WhoIsAndrewWee.com indexed within abt 5 days of having it up, and about 90% of pages are indexed. fresh blog posts are indexed within 24 hrs of it being posted.

are you using a comprehensive list of XML-RPC servers in your notification list?

i am also listed in technorati, and do social bookmarking at del.icio.us, blinkbits and a bunch of other places.

what i found useful was this blogging package at www.SecretBlogWeapon.com.

It's got a SEO guide which optimizes yr settings and teaches you the fundamentals of creating a niche site, a Wordpress SEO guide, Adsense guide, a RSS feed submitter and a bunch of 176 blog directories and traffic generators.

also i have friends with PR5 sites who put me on their blog roll.

you might also like to check out iwebtool.com and use the backlink checker and PR predictor.

my 3 mth old domain is slated to go from PR0 to PR3 or PR4 at the next update (if the estimates are accurate).my content is generally keyword rich so it's scraped by a lot of sites hence the flucation in PR.

cheers!

[thenewguy]

maybe cause bluehost has a google deal. Bluehost proboly just sends ur domain to google. Just a guess. Cause google doesnt magically know that a new is made.Because they are a registrar, Google does know when many domain names are purchased.
http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html

I do not think people at BlueHost submit customer sites to Google.
http://www.google.com/addurl/

[thenewguy]

I joined Google Adsense.
Not for earning money, but everytime I add a new page to my website, I put a small Google add on the bottom of that page to make sure Google sees and indexes that new page.
This way all new content is indexed within 2 weeks while it coul;d take months otherwise if a new page is far from the root and with little links to it.
Also I see Googlebot visiting my site with 200 hits a day when I have some ads.I am thinking no; Google has different bots for different things.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=34428
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=40366

[thenewguy]

I've found out that although I am listed on Yahoo, Ask, MSN, and others I am not listed at all on Google. Anyone have any idea what I can do?http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35664

[icazzi]

I am also having a problem with google, my site is not refreshing on google's search page. It's been almost 2 months since Googlebot successfully accessed my site. In the index.html file in my root directory I have a line with the following:

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url= fimrc/home.html" />

which goes to the homepage. Will google's crawler follow this link? The website is www.fimrcmn.org. Also, does having the page redirect like this effect my page on google? I recently added a sitemap file so maybe that will help. I appreciate any help as I am pretty new to this... thanks.

[felgall]

Less than 20% of web pages can be found in any search engine at all. Google have around 16-17% of all of the pages on the web cataloged in their search engine which is several billion more pages than their nearest competitor. If you have pages with targetted content and plenty of incoming links then you can get a top ranking with Google and the other search engines as well but it can take 6 months or more for your page to move to where it belongs in the list. Targetting phrases of two or three words works better than targetting one word and the phrase should be used several times in the actual content of the page. Google have hundreds of servers around the world and it takes time for changes to the index to make it out to all of them by which time they have already started the next round of updates.

[yapching]

well what i suggest is to submit to free web listing. it will help you create your backlinks and as far as i know google will have a greater chance to crawl to your site if your connected to a popular site. :-)

[BlueHost-Reviews]

I would say ,adding lots of fresh & relevant content, optimize keywords and title, link exchange and obtain backlinks from relevant websites , this is will definately make you UP in Google . Also preferable high PR website backlinks helps a lot. :D

[drjoea@gmail.com]

Continuing with the same discussion. My site:
http://drjoea.googlepages.com/
was listed on page 2 (17th) for "ultrasound gallery". Now google says the page does not exist when I enter the URL. Sometimes I get another sub-page of this site in the search result. This happened after I used some link:
http://quickreg.4funn.net to re-submit my site to search engines. My site is still at 23 rd place on yahoo. But it has disappeared from google.
Is this a problem of resubmitting my site? I also changed the name heading for my site from Diagnostic ultrasound- Home to Diagnostic Ultrasound- Gallery 1 week before this. Google page rank for my site is 0, but not grey.
Helppp...
Joe.

[happy2007]

Continuing with the same discussion. My site:
http://drjoea.googlepages.com/
was listed on page 2 (17th) for "ultrasound gallery". Now google says the page does not exist when I enter the URL. Sometimes I get another sub-page of this site in the search result. This happened after I used some link:
http://quickreg.4funn.net to re-submit my site to search engines. My site is still at 23 rd place on yahoo. But it has disappeared from google.
Is this a problem of resubmitting my site? I also changed the name heading for my site from Diagnostic ultrasound- Home to Diagnostic Ultrasound- Gallery 1 week before this. Google page rank for my site is 0, but not grey.
Helppp...
Joe.

Hello,
I've been doing some reading about goo gle page ranking and getting listed in their search engines. From what I've read from other people's experiences, goo gle has gotten very picky with their criteria.

one thing i have heard is that if you do a site submit too many times (and that can happen if you have multiple "agencies" submitting your site to search engines on your behalf), you get blacklisted from goo gle.

also, they will kill ranking on your site VERY fast if you have even a few dead links nowadays. This i know from personal experience. I had changed hosts for one of my sites, and like 3 out of 100 links on my main page were dead (misconfiguration), i used to get about 4000 unique visitors per month, and about 2/3 of them from google. Now i am lucky to get 500 unique visitors per month, and 90% of them come from yahoo, msn, etc.

i'm getting to the point of nearly hating goo gle. but can't live without their traffic, so what can you do?

[surfcrs]

My first site took about 5 weeks to get listed in google. My second site took about 2 days! It might be because my first site built up some pagerank and I linked it to my second site..similar content. Or it might be because I made a post in craigslist...or because I already had a site with google webmaster tools and did the google number html verify page... . I don't know. I'll see how site #3 does.

Update: site number 2 was delisted. Site 1 has stayed listed with google, probably because my main site links to it. I'll just try to get one decent link to the other sites and see what happens.

[tsymonds]

My site: http://www.redaware.demon.co.uk is only listed in yahoo, I have tried submiting the the url to both google and msn, but no joy as yet. Is msn as fussy as google? Does anyone know how long it takes normally takes to get listed on msn after submitting your site details?

[RustyTheWonderdog]

i've worked for the last couple of months to increase my google rankings and i've worked my way into the top 20 for the search phrase "business casual". still, i really don't see that many hits for the phrase. i see more results for things where i'm listed in the top 10 like "business comics". the site was listed in google after a month or two on the net. it just didn't show on any searches.

on yahoo, i've been in the top 10 for quite a while, and i get some decent traffic from there.

[Gloria]

My site: http://www.redaware.demon.co.uk is only listed in yahoo, I have tried submiting the the url to both google and msn, but no joy as yet. Is msn as fussy as google? Does anyone know how long it takes normally takes to get listed on msn after submitting your site details?

What you need to do is find established and high ranked site (PR5 and above) and ask them to post link to your site or simple buy link from one established site.Believe me you will get indexed and listed on google within a couple days.

[jicecil]

My site http://www.dependency.ws is not listed in Google as of yet under drug rehab.

[charlesgan]

Less than 20% of web pages can be found in any search engine at all. Google have around 16-17% of all of the pages on the web cataloged in their search engine which is several billion more pages than their nearest competitor. If you have pages with targetted content and plenty of incoming links then you can get a top ranking with Google and the other search engines as well but it can take 6 months or more for your page to move to where it belongs in the list. Targetting phrases of two or three words works better than targetting one word and the phrase should be used several times in the actual content of the page. Google have hundreds of servers around the world and it takes time for changes to the index to make it out to all of them by which time they have already started the next round of updates.

google will archieve the content after sometime.
new fresh content will appear on serp. old content goes to archive. i really dont like when my pages get archieve.

[hofmax]

just upload a sitemap of your website to google sitemaps and you will get indexed sooner or later. Make sure you include the right time for revisits.

[charlesgan]

i was tried sitemap on3 of my sites, almost a year ago.
and still... the indexing of the pages is no different. so i not using them on myother sites anymore.

[hofmax]

I had the impression that the pages were indexed a bit faster. The thing I don´t like about it is that Google is slowly becoming big brother - they know your web sites (sitemaps), they know your emails (gmail), they know your blog (blogger), they know what you´re searching (google.com), and they even know your site stats (analytics), and probably a lot of other things if you use their other apps. Apparently the desktop apps like the search function and picasa phone home all the time so that´s not encouraging.

[dophinsluv]

You can see what search engines are crawling your website if you go to your bluehost cpanel. You'll find a box of options titled "Stats / Logs". From this select "Web/FTP Stats". From the list that appears select "Latest Visitors".

In this list look at the agent. msnbot, Ask Jeeves/Teoma, and Yahoo! Slurp come up a lot for me.

They also give some links for website develpers:
http://search.msn.com/msnbot.htm
http://about.ask.com/en/docs/about/webmasters.shtml
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp

[hofmax]

That can also be seen in AWStats.

[thebeard]

I am thinking no; Google has different bots for different things.
The last hosting service I was with confirmed this. Google is constantly rewriting their bots, to keep ahead of outsiders trying to manipulate search rankings. It was my understanding the best way to get good ranks over the long haul was to have well optimized pages, consistent key words and descriptions that did not over repeat. Submitting sites I heard was a quick, but short term way to get ranked.

[whiteknite]

Just out of curiousity; how do the search engines (google in particular) find a website? I heard that thier spider will eventually find it even if the site was not submitted. Is that true? If so, will all other search engines find our sites?

[brettdix]

The last hosting service I was with confirmed this. Google is constantly rewriting their bots, to keep ahead of outsiders trying to manipulate search rankings. It was my understanding the best way to get good ranks over the long haul was to have well optimized pages, consistent key words and descriptions that did not over repeat. Submitting sites I heard was a quick, but short term way to get ranked.

Yep, you have to or should have different key words for each web page you are submitting to the internet. No repeats. The best way to get great page rankings is to get the hits. That in itself takes time. One way to speed up the process is to do some networking. If you're a blog site, that is easy, just comment on other peoples blogs and you'll be able to leave your url link. Also ask to trade links. Also get your website in as many directories as you can. There are many that will accept your URL for free. It really does take time. A lot more time than we want for a great page ranking to occur. Be patient...

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