noob question - can't see website

[bigfootybets]

intro - this is my first atempt at having a website, so i am still learning as i go.

i am using 'web page maker' to build and 'ftp' the site. (a pretty easy to use bit of software).
i have managed to upload the site from my computer, but when i type in the address i just get a 'welcome to bluehost' message.

..................................

i then logged into my userCP and saw that my front page was a .wss file, i have never heard of this file type before. so i then re-named the front page - index.html this gave me a big page of gibberish (i assume html) when i type in the address, - but at least i knew that the front page was up there.

so next up i saved my site as a .html file before uploading 'ftp' to the server - but nothing changes.

so what am i doing wrong? i have a feeling that the 'web page maker' that i am using may be the problem.

[promoti]

What web page maker are you using and what is your domain name? Post that info then we can help a bit more.

Chris

[bigfootybets]

the program is called 'web page maker v2'
the domain is www.bigfootybets.com

[nicco]

the good news is that now you know the folder and file that are your homepage. You already know where it goes, to name it index.html, so this seems like an easy fix. .

I have no experience with web page maker, nor have i heard of a .wss file, so i cant help too much there.

my recommendation is to use an WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get - or something like that) HTML editor, like Dreamweaver or anything else that outputs your webpage in a .html format.

then just upload it along with your images to your site.

hope it helps
nicco

[vegasgwm]

did you just renamed the the file extention to html or did webpagemaker give you the choice to save the file as html?

[shirleymixon]

noobies often forget to look at the home page name...

[Early Out]

From a little quick Googling, it appears that the .wss file is the project file. In other words, it's the file that contains the information needed to create the web pages - it's not the webpage itself. So, it sounds like you've somehow managed to upload the input to the page-making process, rather than the output (i.e., the finished pages).

[bigfootybets]

thanks for the replys.

'web page maker v2' is a very easy to use WYSIWYG, being a complete noob i found 'dreamweaver' and other programes quite difficult to use :confused: - i think the main advantages were the pre-made 'stuff' (buttons, scrolling text etc.....) were just drag and drop.

as for the file type.
the first time i uploaded, i uploaded the .wss file (the default save type).
the next time i saved as a .html - loaded it back up (worked fine) and uploaded as a .html file.

looking at my 'file manager' - i think i have both (.wss and .html) sites there, so this could be something making it go wrong? - is there a simple way of deleting everything i have uploaded (without deleting any important stuff)?

[nicco]

try deleting the .wss file and leave the last .html file that you were able to create. the last .html file you created should be able to be viewed on your pc by opening that page with a browser.

make sure this html file is named index.html and in your public_html folder.
(and just so you know.. if index.htm and index.html are in the same folder, the .html will prevail. i.e. show up, rather than the .htm)

nicco

[jamesd116]

Now you may irst person oon any forum that i can help
ii been using web page maker for years and i love it myself
because of its the easiest program to use ithat i have found

wss is the backup file for wpm i never used it i guess i should tr it one day just to see when you publish the website youshoul have bth the html (unless you changedthe extensionn) and the wss file uploaded unless you chosee not to publish the wss file is is under page options when you clickon publsh
so you publish index.html and index.wss you dont need to do anything when it comes to changing the file name so at this point i would republiish so you can have your files the way they are supposed to be. once repunblished your index page should be up if not let me kknow and i will try and help
you can also im or ask if you have any wpm questions
jamesd116@yahoo.com
or
jamesd116@hotmail.com

I may not be a web professional but iftheres one thing i know a little bit about its wpm

[bigfootybets]

thank's for the help.

- i deleted the .wss files
- went back to web page maker
- saved as html
- opened and uploaded (takes a few min's to upload)
i will then:
- move index.html into public folder

fingers crossed :o

[jamesd116]

thank's for the help.


i will then:
- move index.html into public folder

fingers crossed :o
you shouldnt have to move the file
when you click on publish theres theres an option to modify
where it askls for remote folder it shoul be exactly as follows

public_html (NOTICE TH UNDERSCORE ALSO)

unless yoou have an addon which i dont htink you have
with the public_html as your remote folder it automatically goes to that folder

[bigfootybets]

thank's james.

having a bit of sucess now :D
- the site is up, however it's certainly not what it should be :( (www.bigfootybets.com) - though it's still a work in progress.

james - i had the 'remote folder' blank, so will re-try publishing with public_html as the remote folder. - i think thats why the images may not be displayed right now (as they are in another folder).

so will try again :rolleyes:

[jamesd116]

james - i had the 'remote folder' blank, so will re-try publishing with public_html as the remote folder. - i think thats why the images may not be displayed right now (as they are in another folder).

so will try again :rolleyes:
LOL yyeahthat would be a problem leaving that blank any questions just ask ill be around the omputer most of the day like i said you can reach me by IM as well for quicker responses
enjoy

[bigfootybets]

i put public_html as the remote folder, but got this:

.............................................

> USER **********
< 331 User ********** OK. Password required
> PASS *******
< 230-Your bandwidth usage is restricted
< 230-User ********** has group access to: **********
< 230 OK. Current restricted directory is /
> CWD public_html
< 550 Can't change directory to public_html : No such file or directory
Change to Remote Folder failed

Publishing Failed !

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[nicco]

the advantage of using an FTP program, which you can look into later, is that you see all the file structure of your space on the server.

for now, I would try going into cpanel and then into FTP manager. then select Bluehost drag and drop FTP.
It will open a broswer window and you can drag and drop your files into your public_html folder, rename them, delete them, etc.

this will allow you to see if the public_html is there or not and rules out any config mistakes in your webmaker program.
hope this works

nicc

[jamesd116]

that is a possibility becasue i dont know what that message you got means
drag and drop is easy but first you will need to export to html
on the page you want to upload go to file scroll down til you get to exprt to html (i typicaly make a folder on my desktop called htmls for this case) save it to the folder and that way when you go to ftp d 'n' d you can easily locate your files
when you go to the blue host program open up the public_html folder go to deskyop opne html folder and you got it


but that message you got i dont know what it is i never recd that message and i have been usingwpm for 4 yrs

but per the following line looks like its not there....hmmm maybe when you deleted your files you may have deleted the public html folder
< 550 Can't change directory to public_html : No such file or directory
Change to Remote Folder failed

Publishing Failed !

[bigfootybets]

tried the drag and drop, - but just get a page of gibberish :(

when i save as html, i just get 1 html save file (index.html) - is this right?

[nicco]

looks like you found it.. your page is up.

now make sure your page is pointing (or refercing) to the images, then upload the images also..
normally a folder called 'images' within the public_html folder is a good place to keep them. you have to create this folder, btw.

there is a hotlink protection foud in cpanel under 'hotlink protection'.
make sure its disabled for now so you can test to see if your images come up.

good luck.
nico

[jamesd116]

i dont see gibberish i see your site only thing nowo what you need to do is upload your images if you look into yourr folder where you exprrted tohtml there should be an image folder did you drop this folder as well you need the pics in there for your page

[bigfootybets]

tried the 'public_html' again and it worked :confused: :confused: - not sure why.

but the background / buttons etc..... arn't there :(
- could this be to do with the 'subfolder for images' on page options? - it is set at 'images' presumably the default.

[jamesd116]

looks like you found it.. your page is up.

upload the images also..
normally a folder called 'images' within the public_html folder is a good place to keep them. you have to create this folder, btw.



good luck.
nico
folder should automatically create if you exported to html

[jamesd116]

tried the 'public_html' again and it worked :confused: :confused: - not sure why.

but the background / buttons etc..... arn't there :(
- could this be to do with the 'subfolder for images' on page options? - it is set at 'images' presumably the default.
this is correct

[bigfootybets]

i dont see gibberish i see your site only thing nowo what you need to do is upload your images if you look into yourr folder where you exprrted tohtml there should be an image folder did you drop this folder as well you need the pics in there for your page

in my userCP i have an 'images' folder - which seems to contain all the images, is this the one i just move to public_html?

[jamesd116]

in my userCP i have an 'images' folder - which seems to contain all the images, is this the one i just move to public_html?
no....... ddid you do the export if yes
look in that folder (on your computer) for a nother folder called images
there you should find your images and you can d "n"d ftp them

[bigfootybets]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
:D :D :D :D

thanks for all your help people, especially james.
working now

[jamesd116]

looking good looking good
need help just ask anytime youc an also take down my email/im addresses do not know how many ppl have used wpm on hre but i enjoyed using it so there may be cases i can help out better i would keep trying the wpm ftp though its alot esaier to use

[nicco]

good luck.
nicco

EDIT: ok forget it.. you go it!