Which Design looks better.

[phprocket]

Hi.

I have 3 designs of the same website and I just wanted to know what other people thought of them..


1. http://www.phprocket.com
2. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template.html
3. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template2.php

I am thinking of moving the site to a new design.. What do you think.. I was told that some people are having problems viewing the site but nobody can actually tell me what's wrong and I can't figure out why..


Maybe someone in this forum can inlighten me.. :)

[Necron99]

This is nothing but personal opinion. Number 2 does it for me. I don't care for the bubbly design down the right-hand side of the page. I also like the bolder navigation links.

[thenewguy]

I like 2 the best, simple is sometimes better.

[aceofspades]

stick with 2 it conforms to the http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-mistakes-in-web-design-1995-2015.html

Btw are you using smarty. All the templates look nice but template 2 helps you focus on the actual content of the page, your awesome product.

The buble design is pretty but it causes people to focus on the backround. The backround coom[;ements the rest of the page. But all in all all of them of are good except 2 is the most elegant and subtle. I also like the whole seperated page effect. Where the backround is complely different from the foreground. Kind of like gamespot. Gamespot has one of the nicest designs and even the ads are well placed (i wouldnt know i have a membership).


Dont be like this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Q31Q_404Q

[dixieau]

oops we have a draw here, my 12yo dau who is a graphics nut says No. 1... my tired eyes say No. 2. aceofspades pretty much says it I think the bubbles take your attention away.

Good Luck

[aceofspades]

oops we have a draw here, my 12yo dau who is a graphics nut says No. 1... my tired eyes say No. 2. aceofspades pretty much says it I think the bubbles take your attention away.

Good Luck
And not to mention the actual setting of the page in the backround. The webpage almost has a 3d kind of the webpage is on top of the backround rather than the webpage is part of the backround (like in template 1 and 2). That is also a large difference. The is a much more defined seperation between the backround and the content of the webpage. Its very nice.

BTW smarty ftw

Btw if you need a beta tester I can always help. >.> Im currently using some random sourceforge software.

Also if you need any with PHPLIC I could help. I think that would be very successful. The insecurity of PHP scripts is the number 1 reason that there are no widespread commerical PHP cripts besides vBulletin. Most PHP software is custom desinged and not generic and distrubuted like desktop aps. There is also no way to have shareware PHP scripts. I am currently making a casino webservice targetted for second life. It would also be available from a GUI or PHP-GTK application.

[Early Out]

Another vote for #2. The bubble design really does grab your attention, especially since it's on the right side of the page, but there's nothing over there, so that's not where you want your users to be looking. The navigation links on the original are also less obvious (not enough color contrast).

[aceofspades]

alright I finially found something for us poor people who cant afford PHP encoding software at http://free-php-encoder.qarchive.org/

It sucks but you gotta do what you gotta do. If I actually made any money I would buy a real PHP encoder.

Edit:
It sucks it doesnt even work without making it an extension and altering the PHP installation!

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Hey man i hope you do great. It took me like a very long time to find any sort of encoding software and there is none as good as yours. Ioncube is both expensive and hard to install. Zend Guard is so expensive and you have to have zend studio also.

Your PHPLic is really innovative. First thing of its kind. It would give you the same amount of countrol that serial keys on desktop apps. There would be some serisouly large companies that would use it. The pospect of being able to give someone a refund and invalidating the software is cool.

I hope you do well

edit:

LOL that doesnt work either. Wow PHPShield is 100 bucks and it is just a barebones encryption software. Dude you arent competing with much

end edit

Code Lock is #1 for php encryptor on google http://www.google.com/search?q=php+encryptor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[phprocket]

This is nothing but personal opinion. Number 2 does it for me. I don't care for the bubbly design down the right-hand side of the page. I also like the bolder navigation links.

When I design for myself, I notice that I like to design for me and not for my customer, if you think it's a little distracting then it's gone!

One of my major problems when I design is that I look at it more than my customers so I understand it.. I really needed a person to look at it for 10 seconds.. and tell me what they think... Normally that's all a customer would stay especially if they don't like the site.. Unless I got really great content they can't live without then they would just tape a piece of paper to the right hand side of the screeen :)

[phprocket]

I like 2 the best, simple is sometimes better.


#2 seems to be winning this design war.. Thanks.

[phprocket]

stick with 2 it conforms to the http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-mistakes-in-web-design-1995-2015.html

Nice Reading.. ;)



Btw are you using smarty. All the templates look nice but template 2 helps you focus on the actual content of the page, your awesome product.

I do use smarty in my software PUMMS for example.. But not in these examples. Thanks for your vote.. it seems that #2 is winning!



The buble design is pretty but it causes people to focus on the backround. The backround coom[;ements the rest of the page. But all in all all of them of are good except 2 is the most elegant and subtle. I also like the whole seperated page effect. Where the backround is complely different from the foreground. Kind of like gamespot. Gamespot has one of the nicest designs and even the ads are well placed (i wouldnt know i have a membership).


Well unless someone actually likes the bubbles then it's gone! I had the background effect because 800X600 you don't see the background or very little of it.. I actually use 1024X768 so I see a little of the background but if anybody uses a higher resolution then they would see alot of background.. since this background is 1500px long :)


Thanks.

[phprocket]

oops we have a draw here, my 12yo dau who is a graphics nut says No. 1... my tired eyes say No. 2. aceofspades pretty much says it I think the bubbles take your attention away.

Good Luck


It's becomming more and more obvious that the bubbles was a very bad idea.. Thanks..

[phprocket]

And not to mention the actual setting of the page in the backround. The webpage almost has a 3d kind of the webpage is on top of the backround rather than the webpage is part of the backround (like in template 1 and 2). That is also a large difference. The is a much more defined seperation between the backround and the content of the webpage. Its very nice.

Hum.. which one did you like that looked kinda 3d ish?

1. http://www.phprocket.com
2. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template.html
3. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template2.php






BTW smarty ftw


what does ftw mean? Sorry.. I don't know..



Btw if you need a beta tester I can always help. >.> Im currently using some random sourceforge software.


Yes I will need beta testers.. I rather have people who are not programmers who is really good at breaking things. Because if I can get noobies to understand it how to use it, then I got it made.. I found that noobies actually find more errors then most programmers because they might try to do something that the programmer never thought of.. :rolleyes:

So if you think your good enough to break things then signup for my newsletter. http://www.phprocket.com/mail/?p=subscribe



Also if you need any with PHPLIC I could help. I think that would be very successful.

Yes I will need some beta testers in the future, Right now I have a strip down version for testing that's almost beta.. I will mention this in my newsletter. At first I will offer this service for free for maybe a 1-2 years..

Then I will still allow free signup but if they have more than X amout of software tracked (2000 for example) then I will charge something like $5 a month or $40 a year. after all the bugs are worked out..

One great thing about this service is that I will have it based on XML so you can have your own membership system to add receipts to your account secretly via XML so your customer can order from your site and unlock the software from your site. The customer will never know that your using PHPLIC.COM's service.. but if you want to lock people out, or your customer tries to reverse charges on your php script that he/she bought then you can lock them out.. and also prevent people who share php scripts or try to install on more than one server. PHPLIC support licensing to IP or Domain you can register as many as you wish with one script...

Here is a sneak peak..
http://www.phprocket.com/license/newversion/index2.php

You can setup where the script looks for the license.. in this case it's set to phpcodelock.com for testing only.. it don't even point to a real page.. but you get the idea..

You can set the email support your domain, and much more.. the customer will never know it's a phplic script unless they have seen it before.. but you can change the colors and alot more...

Here is the admin's panel to software that's been unlocked already..

http://www.isthatascam.com/admin/

You have the option to show that panel or not..

Please don't abuse my article software... it's under development also..


The bad thing is that when you sign up you will be given pure php code to implement into your existing php script.. and then you must encode at least that one php script.

Encoding software... that's a big deal..

I personally own Zend's encoder and it's great.. it uses obfuscate and encryption methods.. but the down side is that if your on a shared server and the admin don't have the loader installed, your up a creek with a paddle.


I personally own IonCube encode and it's great.. it uses obfuscate and encryption method just like zend. but on the down side it claims that if your site DOES NOT have the load it will load it in run time.. that's great but if your server HAS ioncube INSTALLED ALREADY with an OLDER loader and your using newer encryption version then I don't care how much you try to load in run time your still up a creak without a paddle.

I personally own PHPCodeLock software and the site.. Not tring to down play others and up play my own site.. PHPCodeLock works on any site.. no matter what version of a loader you have.. it must have php and a webserver installed.. like Apache or Windows flavor with php.. Now the down side to my software is that it does not obfuscate the source code.

Do you know what all three of these examples have in common ? They all can be cracked.. All you have to do is modify the output of a rouge zend engine.. that's it.. but Zend and Ioncube also obfuscate their php code so it makes it more difficult to recover.. it can be done but it takes 500+ hours.. by the time you un obfucate it.. a new version of php came out..

To sove this problem with PHPCodeLock and to make your php script almost uncrackable I use this obfucate software.. http://www.gridinsoft.com/protect.php

You have to play with it a bit, making sure you don't obfucate vars that are global.. but the software lets you do this with ease..

After you use the obfuscate the php script then you use PHPCodeLock and bingo you got a pretty secure piece of php script just as if you bought Zend and Ioncube except it's works on all platforms no matter what loader you have installed......unlike Zend or Ioncube.

I will be using PHPCodeLock software and Grindinsoft's PHP Processor 1.4 when I create PHPLIC.com

I am also working on PHPCodeLock Tracker.. which would have released last week but. I found one bug that needed to be fixed before the release.. just incase non of you have heard of PHPCodeLock you can find it here.. http://www.phpcodelock.com


Well I think I have ranted enough.. this is turning into an article now.. :)


Anyway getting back to the design..

Here is the updated version..

http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/updated/template2.html

I replaced the little green line with a black border line.. so that my header dont' look like it's floating into space..

Tell me what you think.. :)

[aceofspades]

the 2nd one looks 3d ish because the back round is seperate

[phprocket]

alright I finially found something for us poor people who cant afford PHP encoding software at http://free-php-encoder.qarchive.org/

It sucks but you gotta do what you gotta do. If I actually made any money I would buy a real PHP encoder.

Edit:
It sucks it doesnt even work without making it an extension and altering the PHP installation!

End edit



Yea.. there is bunch of this type stuff out there.. I still think PHPCodeLock is a better option. PHPCodeLock Tracker will be comming out very soon.. I will give a very discounted rate to people on my news letter..

http://www.phprocket.com/mail/?p=subscribe

Because I am going to need a few testers..




Hey man i hope you do great. It took me like a very long time to find any sort of encoding software and there is none as good as yours. Ioncube is both expensive and hard to install. Zend Guard is so expensive and you have to have zend studio also.


Yea I bought Zend Guard with Zend Studio and it's really expensive but if you register as a business like I did you can get both for under $900 but it's only a year's license.. Something that I did not know.. :(




Your PHPLic is really innovative. First thing of its kind. It would give you the same amount of countrol that serial keys on desktop apps. There would be some serisouly large companies that would use it. The pospect of being able to give someone a refund and invalidating the software is cool.


That's the whole idea...




I hope you do well

edit:

LOL that doesnt work either. Wow PHPShield is 100 bucks and it is just a barebones encryption software. Dude you arent competing with much

end edit


Thanks.

[mylovetoo]

Hi.

I have 3 designs of the same website and I just wanted to know what other people thought of them..


1. http://www.phprocket.com
2. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template.html
3. http://www.phprocket.com/newtemplate/template2.php

I am thinking of moving the site to a new design.. What do you think.. I was told that some people are having problems viewing the site but nobody can actually tell me what's wrong and I can't figure out why..


Maybe someone in this forum can inlighten me.. :)
I found this forum through a search engine... love it.. its getting to be a scary world out there.

[coolblue]

I like the first one.

[Early Out]

I'm guessing the original poster has made his choices by now - this thread is several months old. Time to put it to bed.