How to optimize for Google

[Math]

Could you please tell me what else I have to do to optimize my site www.mathsupporter.com for google for the keywords math help,math homework help and math tutoring.

Any help is appreciated

[Pethens]

There are two ways to optimize for keywords:

1. Optimize on the page by featuring the keywords in the page title and the text of the page. There are limits to how much of this type of optimization you can do without deoptimizing the page for your readers, who will recognize when a page is keyword stuffed.

2. Optimize off the page by getting relevant backlinks with your keywords in the anchor text.

Since your page already features your keywords in the title and the content, I would focus on (2) with perhaps some minor rewrites of the page content if you can use the keywords more frequently while keeping it readable.

[cabbie]

Use unique keywords/subjects... Post in forums (in a limited honest manner, not spamming) topics about subjects on your site.. On the big sites such as this (http://www.countrygrapevine.com/) or other site pertaining to your site enter a link to your site and register in the guest or log book.. The first time I ever hit Googles first page was from the guest book in this link..

For a few years I have been in the first page with several key words and it bounces up and down...

Google roxbox manual for a demo ollie cabaret karaoke.... And where possible put a link in the sig like below....

[Math]

I have used these keywords in the title, content and description but I can not find my site for these keywords in Google. :confused: When I checked, I found 40% of the total people are searching for the keyword 'math help' through Google.

I am a newbie and don't know much about SEO. I have heard that some companies are there who will do the SEO for sites and are claiming that after optimizing the sites will appear in the first two pages. Is it true?

Thanks.

[cabbie]

For keywords put the links on the left in ie Study Tips,**, Also your math topics. Have a math puzzle for the week or month.. A horse is tied to the south east corner of a 20X40 ft barn on a 150 ft rope.. A 50 ft fence goes from the north east corner straight east.. How many square feet can the horse graze? Such things like this... just some things off the top of my head...

[SequimPC]

If you want the information to do it yourself, just go to Amazon.com type in Google optimization and look for the highest ranking book on that subject. I can recommend about 4 books that you can't live without if you're trying to get ranked higher in Google.

My wife runs a search engine optimization website and the average cost of having someone do it for you seems to be about $200.

Just my two cents

Lyle J. Kingsley
Sequim PC

[Math]

My wife runs a search engine optimization website and the average cost of having someone do it for you seems to be about $200.

Just my two cents

Lyle J. Kingsley
Sequim PC

Thanks
Which is that site?

[charlesgan]

you just need more keyword with link to your website. like this one math help (http://www.mathsupporter.com/) :)

[mantisinc]

One of the keys to good SERPs is backlinks. Lots of high(ish) PR backlinks will help to increase the pagerank of your website, which in turn will make your website more important to google.
As has already been said, post on forums, link in directories, and exchange links. All of these will help ;)

[Math]

One of the keys to good SERPs is backlinks. Lots of high(ish) PR backlinks will help to increase the pagerank of your website, which in turn will make your website more important to google.
As has already been said, post on forums, link in directories, and exchange links. All of these will help ;)

To get more traffic, we should get in to the first two pages. Right? A higher page rank brings us more traffic?

[terrakeramik]

An important factor that no one mentioned is that Google does regularly index sites (ours is indexed daily), but typically your site will not be listed in Google search for popular keywords for several weeks or months. We launched our site in November. By January, MSN search had our site in the top 5 for our four most important keywords. Just this past week, Yahoo search moved our site in the top 5 for one of the four keywords (the others were in the 100-200 range). We were not in the Google top 1000 for any of our keywords until last week all four cracked the top 1000. In the past week we have seen Google move our site into the top 500 for all four keywords - one is in the top 150. We do expect both Google and Yahoo to move our site into the top 5-10 for all our keywords (hopefully in the next few weeks).

You may also check out the tool http://www.googlerankings.com. You will need a Google API key (which can be obtained online from Google). The tool essentially checks your search rank on all the popular search engines and also checks your back links. We have found the tool useful but not always 100% reliable (i.e. sometimes it may indicate an incorrect rank for a chosen keyword but you can click on the result and verify).

To make a long story short, it may take some time for your site to show up in Google search and to achieve an acceptable rank. All the advice in the previous posts is good. There is a lot of useful SEO research online that provides more detailed recommendations (e.g., it does matter where your content with keywords is on the page, if you use CSS and have column layouts, the search engines read left to right and top to bottom and give more weighting to content that appears on the top left vs. the bottom right, also the search engines cannot read images so you should use alt tags that contain keywords, etc.).

[cabbie]

This cracks me up One post and its #1 in google (http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=roxbox+manual&btnG=Google+Search)

[terrakeramik]

According to http://www.googlerankings.com you rank in MSN search for math help (#38) and math homework help (#33). No rank for the other search engines. It also shows that your site has no backlinks and a page rank of zero.

[terrakeramik]

This cracks me up One post and its #1 in google

Not surprising. There are only 2,860 results for roxbox manual.

[Math]

Thanks for your reply. I have visited the site www.googlerankings.com . But in their website it says that google stopped issuing new SOAP keys.
What should we do then?

Also, I want to know one more thing. HTML validation and rankings are related? If so, how?

Once again thanks for all the help.

[terrakeramik]

Sorry about that - I did not realize that Google discontinued issuing SOAP API keys.

Regarding your question about HTML, see this site (http://googlerankings.com/googlefriendly.php) for advice on how to structure your pages to make them google friendly.

May I also suggest you take a look at Google's Webmaster blog (http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/02/discover-your-links.html) with great advice and news about coming features.

Regarding your question about HTML validation (and CSS standards) impact on search rankings, it important to understand that search bots that crawl your site are "blind" and do not visualize your site but instead "read" your HTML markup. Bad HTML or unecessary or messy code will negatively impact your ranking. Good HTML like using <h> tags for titles will help Google boost the importance of the title (useful if the title contains your keywords). Using Div tags to lay out your pages rather than tables will help the search boot "read" your page faster because there is less "clutter", which will also improve your ranking. You can find additional info and a more technical explanation by googling.

[cabbie]

This has been a good thread and terrakeramik you have taught me alot more. I just wish when I first started dabbling in web sites I wish I could have found a thread like this instead of learning by accident and experimentation.

[amadeus49]

... A horse is tied to the south east corner of a 20X40 ft barn on a 150 ft rope.. A 50 ft fence goes from the north east corner straight east.. How many square feet can the horse graze? ...

:D For the mathematically challenged, what's the approach and solution to this ?

[terrakeramik]

This has been a good thread ...

Cabbie, you're welcome. If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to send me a PM. I have also tried to share some of my experiences on my blog (see URL below) and will continue to do so.

[cabbie]

... A horse is tied to the south east corner of a 20X40 ft barn on a 150 ft rope.. A 50 ft fence goes from the north east corner straight east.. How many square feet can the horse graze? ...
For the mathematically challenged, what's the approach and solution to this ?
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It is broken into several partial circles using trig to get the angles. then get the area of each one and add..

The largest is from a line straight west around to the end of the 50 ft fence You then have a triangle with the barn wall 20 ft and the fence 50 ft. Using this you determine the angle beyond 180 degrees. Then figure the area for that partial circle.. (percentage) Lets make the barn 30X40 and the fence 40 ft long..