Problems with POP access on Yahoo!

[gideonse]

Hi!

I'm trying to access my bluehost mail via POP on my Yahoo! Mail account. But it refuses to work. First, it said that bluehost refuses the LAST command, and now it's constantly giving me the "unexpectedly terminated the connection" error. Does anyone else have this problem? Anyone found a solution?

Ted:mad: :confused:

[klamation]

You're trying to check your bluehost account mail through Yahoo? I didn't know they do this. The settings are all standard, so as long as they use your proper domain name and pop3 port 110, I don't see a problem with receiving mail. Sending, of course, you need to specify that the SMTP requires authentication.

[gideonse]

No, none of those things work. Yahoo! and Bluehost go together like oil and water. Obviously, Yahoo is useless on the customer service front. That's why I just dumped their hosting service. And I signed up for Bluehost, which is supposedly famous for their customer service. But they, too, have been useless. There is no reason whatsoever that Yahoo's POP mail service should not be compatible with Bluehost's email, but it is, it seems. Sigh. Which is weird, because it works on gmail just fine.

[pwillis]

You need to have a paid subscription to Yahoo in order to forward/receive email to an alternative e-mail client such as Thunderbird. Outlook etc. I've learned this after spending the last week trying to accomplish the same things.

Good Luck!
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[gideonse]

Oh, I've got the paid Yahoo! account. All I want is for the bluehost mail to go to the Yahoo! account, which should be a simple settings issue. Bluehost's customer support has been useless. It's almost as if they were responding to an entirely different question. Grr.

[Early Out]

If you can't get Yahoo's email to fetch your BH mail with the normal POP routine, how about just setting your BH email to forward to your Yahoo account?

[pwillis]

Oh, I've got the paid Yahoo! account. All I want is for the bluehost mail to go to the Yahoo! account, which should be a simple settings issue. Bluehost's customer support has been useless. It's almost as if they were responding to an entirely different question. Grr.

I haven't really had any experiences yet with BlueHost Support although I can say that I had very good results using their "live chat" support once. You might give that a go.

Surely you have your reasons as to why you'd like to forward your server mail to Yahoo but, have you considered forwarding the server email and Yahoo mail to a local browser such as Thunderbird or Outlook?

[felgall]

If you are planning on using Thunderbird, Outlook or similar then what do you need Yahoo for as you can access your Bluehost email accouints with those programs directly.

If you want to transfer emails from Bluehost accounts to Yahoo ones then just set up email forwarding.

The connection between Bluehost and Yahoo has nothing to do with POP. All transfers between mail servers can use SMTP. It is only for retrieval by the email program on your own computer that you need POP.

[TinyLnk]

Ok.. I dont use yahoo because they suck and it is ugly.. gmail is the best.

but I did do some quick testing and... it works :D

After you add your account into yahoo, go back and edit it. On that screen there is an option, "Retrieve new messages only" You have to disable that for it to work. You probably want to disable "Leave mail on POP server" otherwise you are going to get the same messages over.. and over.. and over.. and over and over.

And dont forget, mail server = mail.yourdomain.com username = you@yourdomain.com


As for sending mail, they never connect to the server, they simply forge the headers... at least I would hope they did. There is no need to connect to your server to send. And to think yahoo makes you pay for that... ugh. Gmail rocks :)

Good luck.

[TinyLnk]

For the record, Gmail doesnt require you to delete the messages like yahoo does.

[gideonse]

Tinylink:

I've done all of those setting things, and still, it refuses to download into Yahoo. It's very, very weird. And, anyway, why wouldn't Bluehost allow "leave messages on the server" and "retrieve new messages only" ? It's just strange.

Felgall:

It is the POP setting. I'm trying to download the email into the Yahoo account. the SMTP server is irrelevant for this. The work-around is mail forwarding, but then you end up with all sort of wrong code in the email for when it is sent and responded to.

pwillis:

Ah, here's the rub. This is all for my partner, who uses Yahoo mail to check his mail when he's not at home. He works in several different places, and he uses different Yahoo mails for each job. (Don't ask.) So, I'm trying to accommodate his habits. At home, he uses Outlook Express happily, and that works fine.

What I've done is just told him he has to use gmail from now on. It's a vastly better program, so that's fine. But it's all rather silly that the only real issue is that bluehost's email accounts don't accept the "LAST" command.

[klamation]

Tinylink:

I've done all of those setting things, and still, it refuses to download into Yahoo. It's very, very weird. And, anyway, why wouldn't Bluehost allow "leave messages on the server" and "retrieve new messages only" ? It's just strange.
Bluehost allows those settings. They work just fine in other POP programs. How Yahoo does it might be different.
Felgall:

It is the POP setting. I'm trying to download the email into the Yahoo account. the SMTP server is irrelevant for this. The work-around is mail forwarding, but then you end up with all sort of wrong code in the email for when it is sent and responded to.
Have you tried downloading your mail through another POP program, such as Thunderbird? Does it work?
pwillis:

Ah, here's the rub. This is all for my partner, who uses Yahoo mail to check his mail when he's not at home. He works in several different places, and he uses different Yahoo mails for each job. (Don't ask.) So, I'm trying to accommodate his habits. At home, he uses Outlook Express happily, and that works fine.

What I've done is just told him he has to use gmail from now on. It's a vastly better program, so that's fine. But it's all rather silly that the only real issue is that bluehost's email accounts don't accept the "LAST" command.
An understandable problem. Why doesn't your partner use the webmail feature from your hosting account? http://mydomain.com/webmail brings up a login screen where they can put their email and password and use Horde or SquirrelMail for IMAP-style access.

Again, my main thought is, if you can check and send mail through a different POP system, such as Thunderbird, then the problem is not on the BH server, but on Yahoo. Take up the issue with them.

[TinyLnk]

yahoo = ooh ya we got ya now... ;p

i used to use yahoo long ago the i got a netzero account. they were good for a while but now i have issues.. the mail dont like to load. since ive been using gmail its been great though. wish i woulda had gmail before i signed up with all these accounts on netzero now :|

strange that those settings dont work for you though gideonse. worked for me :/

From what im reading.. yahoo is outdated. The LAST command isnt used anymore. The STAT command is similar which is what I assume is used now. I guess yahoo decided they want to support older servers and not newer ones... as they say at guinness, BRILLIANT!

[sdhanz]

You have saved me a LOT of headaches. Your process, below, is exactly what I did. The key is to use the entire email address as the user name. Didn't have to do that with my old web host. For those that think BlueHost is bad (and I don't, BTW) ... I invite you to try StartLogic. That should change your tune about bad tech support. They set a whole new standard. :eek:

After you add your account into yahoo, go back and edit it. On that screen there is an option, "Retrieve new messages only" You have to disable that for it to work. You probably want to disable "Leave mail on POP server" otherwise you are going to get the same messages over.. and over.. and over.. and over and over.

And dont forget, mail server = mail.yourdomain.com
username = you@yourdomain.com



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